November Internationals

05 November 2009 (10:57)

RugbyZone regrets to inform you that none of November internationals taking place in Europe will be covered either by live streaming or with video highlights.

To confirm a few points to our subscribers:
1. RugbyZone has never indicated we would webcast the November Internationals. We have always indicated very clearly what rugby could be viewed in each specific country. At the beginning of 2009 we put up a rights offering of what our subscribers could watch in each specific region and we have delivered on that.

2. Each and every subscriber has been able to check on our map throughout the whole year to see what they were subscribing for. At no point either on our rights map or the linked descriptions have we ever indicated we would be showing these November International games. These rights were specifically made clear to each and every person subscribing to our service.

3. We are a legal website who have paid a lot of money for online rugby rights and we offer a service to rugby lovers who which to legally watch live or on-demand rugby. We do not condone people who promote illegal services on the web, such as illegal live streaming as they are simply promoting stealing of content.

We would have loved to have showed the November Internationals but unfortunately we could not acquire them.

Let's enjoy the Air New Zealand Cup final and the upcoming Heineken Cup.

Read more on the latest rugby news page.

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by Nils theLatvian November 5, 2009 09:17 GMT

What else to say. Real shame.

by Anthony Rebuck November 5, 2009 09:31 GMT

What a shame we were not aware of this ahead of time.

by Noel O'Neill November 5, 2009 09:53 GMT

you have decvied us

by Ben Barrus November 5, 2009 10:30 GMT

Does anyone know where you can stream these games from?

by renier delport_49 November 5, 2009 10:48 GMT

Ben try this ... http://www.myp2p.eu/competition.php?&competitionid=&part=sports&discipline=rugby&archive=no&sel_comp=yes

by ciobanu dan marian November 5, 2009 10:52 GMT

next year your clients will go somewhere else

by Richard Gould November 5, 2009 11:46 GMT

This is information that should have been available to us months ago, not days before the start of the games. While I like rugbyzone and watch a lot of rugby, this websites actions are pretty disappointing. I'm going to feel bad for those subscribers who don't know and get up to watch these games to find this news.

by Rowan Hickey November 5, 2009 12:11 GMT

This is a disaster! I have a huge party organised, with catering brought in and people travelling from all over to watch and enjoy. Never to mind, I will wear an all black jersey get drunk and takle all English, welsh, Scots & paddys in my neighbourhood - remember nothing and still have a great night. Thanks guys, least you could do is provide an alternative better than mine.

by Niels Thornberg November 5, 2009 12:37 GMT

Two thumps down RZ! What is next? Super 14?

by James Probert November 5, 2009 12:48 GMT

This is rubbish man, where am I supposed to watch the rugby then? This was part of the package when I made this year's subscription to Rugby Zone, I want a refund of a discount on next years subscription, this is nonsense!

by Murray Clarkin November 5, 2009 12:54 GMT

So, after having advertised this as being available, as part of the package, its not. No reason, no prior warning, bloody nothing. Pretty interesting that the AB's Oz game from Tokyo has been captioned as "Not available in your region" since it was played. I have spent time in Europe, USA and South East Asia since this happened, and its not been available in any of those regions. Now I know why. It was never going to be available anywhere, at any point, regardless of the "The Region". Bloody con artists and shysters. Wont be renewing next year, thats for bloody sure !

by Jason Fell November 5, 2009 12:59 GMT

Very, very bad for all us rugby fans out there. No northern hemisphere games???????? Ridiculous. Stupid. Deceiving. You should be ashamed and offer a partial refund.

by David Stenberg November 5, 2009 13:05 GMT

This really sucks. Not on any tv stations here, replay or nothing. This was a big part of why I paid the subscription. Want a refund.

by MAURIZIO SANTINI November 5, 2009 13:22 GMT

shame on you.no from today.THE CURRIE CUP:no one week full coverage,no only one.this is a RUGBYZONE site ? much more better the free sport site.i want a refound too.and SHAME ON YOU

by MAURIZIO SANTINI November 5, 2009 13:22 GMT

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by Howard Smith November 5, 2009 13:25 GMT

Probably most but not all subscribers are aware that some at least of these matches will be shown on Setanta, but (probably) only at certain pubs around the US and Canada. For example, I intend going to Fado's in Philadelphia on Saturday to watch the Wales match (and the England match) - their webite indicates that both games will be shown. The Setanta website has a feature that allows you to search for such a venue "near you" . According to my old list there are about 75 venues in all of North America, so they are not very common, but my many such experiences have been excellent; the pubs usually charge $20. Howard Smith.

by Louis John van der Walt November 5, 2009 13:35 GMT

What a bloody shame, baie kak diens, will not be renewing my subscribtion, will take my money somewhere else, thanks for nothing!!!!!!!!!! Bulle en Bokke bo!!!!!!!! LJ

by AB 40 November 5, 2009 13:46 GMT

Shame. I will say NZ vs Oz in Tokyo was available in my region though (Caribbean).

by Corey Russell November 5, 2009 13:50 GMT

i agree with all the above this is crap refund sounds great

by JOHN H. VALENTINE November 5, 2009 13:55 GMT

What website is available to watch these games? I am not able to drive anymore, so my choice is limited to rugbyzone or nothing at this stage.

by Hamish November 5, 2009 13:55 GMT

You arsehole shit-barons!!! Everybody out there should find another website. Can these bastards. Anyone out there in South Korea should go to the Australian Network Website and email and ask them to play the All Blacks games. They're currently playing the Aussie tour games, which is superb. They usually play the NZ and South Africa games as well. Let's show how many people would be stoked if they could get them on for us..Australian network is televised all over asia I think as well. anyone else know websites we can go to to catch the games?

by Johan Bruwer November 5, 2009 13:58 GMT

Very disappointing. Normally when you pay for something, you get that! AB & Aus game was available in Caribbean, BUT I AM A BOK SUPPORTER!!!!!!!!!!! Damn useless if I must say so. Who did the advertising, that person should be taken to the b-field and hanged in public. Where to now as Setanta favors sissy soccer games and rugby needs to suffer??????? CAYMANBUL

by KP November 5, 2009 14:02 GMT

gutted

by Gawie November 5, 2009 14:03 GMT

Rugbyzone will need at least a week just to translate all of this in English. Although I get the gist of it, and I agree: this sucks.

by SuperBru November 5, 2009 14:21 GMT

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by ligblou November 5, 2009 14:56 GMT

I subscribed the beginning of the year, and it said then the EOYT will not be shown. You guys did not read.

by Gary Thompson November 5, 2009 15:25 GMT

I'd guess rugbyzone looked at the numbers and seeing that most of the people using it by a years subscription why pay the extra money to get the end of year broadcast right

by cameron tatupea November 5, 2009 15:37 GMT

Don't blame Rugbyzone. Rugbyzone do not have the rights to fall tour rugby broadcast in the USA. They are owned by Setanta and have been for a long time, Setanta use to sell the broadband rights to Rugbyzone since 2005 but have now decided to keep those rights to themselves, they lost NRL, AFL and don't get to show much of the Barclays premier league so they need all the money they can get their hands on. That’s why games like Ireland v Fiji are on Pay per View only for about $20 each game live (Ireland v Fiji are not worth that much) Rugbyzone owns the rights to all SANZAR games online to a lot of countries and I expect that to continue for a long time to come seeing as they are owned by supersport (who own the rights to Currie cup and all SA rugby). As for the fall tours it's a shame that we are unable to watch most of the games at all but that fault rest with the Setanta and the Northern Hemisphere unions who sell the broadcast rights I guess they don't want to spread the game to world. Rugbyzone gives you so much good rugby it's been a godsend, setanta and others only give you a few games a week. rugbyzone does not own the rights for non SANZAR games the host union and the local broadcasters do in the UK it is the bbc and sky and in france it france2 they have refused to give the rights to rugbyzone and they went to setanta for the celtic and england games and espn uk for the french games. stop blaming rugbyzone i'm glad i can watch every Kiwi game from home. before rugbyzone was around we had to make do with one game a week delayed on fox sports world at 2 am or paying $20 per game to watch tri nations rugby it sucked, and if you live in other places you know how hard it was to watch rugby. Yes it sucks that we cannot watch fall rugby but it is not rugbyzone fault it is setanta they hold the rights in america.

by Gene van der Walt November 5, 2009 15:58 GMT

OK - so where CAN we watch the Springbok/Leicester game tomorrow if you live in the USA ?????? Help !

by Rob Russell_78 November 5, 2009 16:00 GMT

So who at rugbyzone pissed off Setanta enough not to get the broadband rights this year? They should be sacked! These tours have been available for the last 5 years when this was mediazone. How about someone taking responsibility for this lack of foresight (especially this late in the game when it was a selling point to start with) and issue some refunds.

by clayton feeke November 5, 2009 16:01 GMT

I'm also upset about not being able to watch the Boks the play but understand that it is a broadcasting rights issue. Its a pitty. What will i do without my weekly doses of rugby

by Antony Egnal November 5, 2009 16:08 GMT

Any explanation from Rugbyzone itself and what they are doing to remedy the situation

by JV November 5, 2009 16:11 GMT

A real shame, I am very disappointed. Last year Mediazone gave us full coverage so we could see the All Blacks complete the Grand Slam. Is my memory failing me or was this year's November test matches advertized as part of the offering for this year when subscriptions were due? Not good Rugbyzone!

by clayton feeke November 5, 2009 16:14 GMT

I think we would like an answer rugbyzone. What can you do to remedy the situation? At least give us the games on demand if possible

by cameron tatupea November 5, 2009 16:34 GMT

fall tours were not advertised by rugbyzone, again it's not about rugbyzone not wanting to show these games they want to, (hell they show all the super 14, tri nations, June tours and ANZ cup and last years fall tours) it's about the holder of the rights UNWILLING to sell them to rugbyzone and showing limited games themselves at an inflated price. since 2005 rugbyzone did a good job of getting fall tour rugby but this year they have not been ALLOWED to show these games. Also outside the UK, SA, France, Italy, Aus and NZ no one is showing Springbok/Leicester game or any of the Italy, France and Scotland games. All other games will be on setanta online or at a pub for $20 per game and only in America. Next year we get to see ALL SANZAR games, where else can you get that other than rugby channel in NZ or Supersport in SA

by Addi November 5, 2009 17:56 GMT

blah, blah, blah, all this about not being allowed ... don't buy that, sorry cameron. How about supersport jumping in here, they're broadcasting all matches on their channel!?

by Richard Coadwell November 5, 2009 19:01 GMT

HMM there seems to be a lot a passion out there and desire to watch live rugby in the US and other places. If you want to help we may all want to get onto Setnata and convince them that they should include live international rugby as part of their normal progamming. Why should we as rugby fans have to pay $19.99 per game to watch it live on http://setanta-i.com when soccer poofs get their fix live on the telly. But let us not forget that a year of Sentanta will cost you twice what RZ does. For me I will be trying radiosport nz and go old school, listening to a live radio commentary. For your live rugby fix this week try the NPC final go the Cantab's

by Steven Immel November 5, 2009 19:05 GMT

Julle BLIKSEMS!!!!

by ciobanu dan marian November 5, 2009 19:08 GMT

if Rugbyzone is so inocent why they tell us now,with 2 days before and not 2 or 3 months ago?!!! We are talking here about on demand,maybe 24 h delay,like at the World Cup.Is anybody interested not to sell rights on a 24 h delay basis!????Come on,be serious!! It is a good lesson for us,subscribers for next year!!!

by Deryck Smith November 5, 2009 19:48 GMT

This is disgusting. Although for all the Afrikaans speaking people check out http://www.rsg.co.za/ ... they have commentary on the 3 internationals At least you can listen to live commentary on the game ... I don't know of an English station that will cover it ... maybe BBC ?

by Thomas A Zanarini November 5, 2009 20:03 GMT

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by Gavin Starling November 5, 2009 20:36 GMT

Very bad news

by Jake November 5, 2009 20:39 GMT

Some of you guys need to pay attention and read the information on the website, like under the "Tournaments" tab there is no mention of November internationals. Rugbyzone has never said they'll have all the rugby played internationally. That's why they give you the option to buy a day pass for $10 instead of a year subscription. I'm greatful to Rugbyzone for the number of live games we get here in the US.

by John Callaghan November 5, 2009 20:50 GMT

THAT IS BULLSHIT.We paid good money for a entire year of rugby.We got ripped off.

by Toby Macrae November 5, 2009 20:51 GMT

If you live in Reno, Nevada, Foley's Irish Pub is showing the Eng-Aus and Wales-NZ games. I want to watch most if not all of these November internationals but won't be forking out the $100+ to do so. So I would suspect that wherever you may be, there will be a pub of some sort showing these games...for free! And they're showing at decent times, especially on the East Coast. An Irish breakfast, or lunch, and a couple of Guinesses during the rugby doesn't sound too bad to me!

by James Benton November 5, 2009 22:54 GMT

I am a new member, I should have known better that this site was to good to be true!!! Looks like I will be finding a third site to throw my money at in order to watch some fucken rugger!

by michael smith November 5, 2009 23:27 GMT

you got my hard earned cash this time but no more...shame on me.. go all blacks

by J-B November 5, 2009 23:58 GMT

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by Rob Russell_78 November 6, 2009 00:58 GMT

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by Sean_71 November 6, 2009 02:21 GMT

extremely disappointing, broadcast issues throughout the year, picture not that really good and now this, they think they have the market covered and maybe they do but come on RZ where is your customer service, they are eally losing their value proposition

by grant ayling November 6, 2009 02:26 GMT

Very disappointing!!

by Bill Greenwell November 6, 2009 02:43 GMT

I'm disappointed that I have to rely on my brother's Setanta feed for the November internationals, but let me reassure RZ that I've enjoyed my money's worth all year on the excellent games they have provided. Stop bitching, you cheap bastards and get a life. Bill G.

by WELSHWIZ@OPTONLIN.NET November 6, 2009 03:32 GMT

Big disappointment. I will definitely reconsider my subscription when it's due for renewal.

by Bennie Rheeder November 6, 2009 04:02 GMT

I have been using this site for 3 years. The end of year tour has always been a bonus if we get it. Should of read the fine print fellas. I am also gutted for not being able to watch it, but hey, what can we do. Getting 250 games for $100 is still darn good. Show me a better site than that. Good luck Bokke!!!

by Hamish November 6, 2009 04:33 GMT

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by Paul Colin Gibson November 6, 2009 05:00 GMT

Crazy - best teams AB's SA & Aust and you can't show the games! will have to review subscription when it come around. there are greanted a lot of games shown but not of the standard of the end of season tour games that we expect to see.

by Dale Lotter November 6, 2009 05:05 GMT

This bad press is a long time coming for RZ. This is not a good organization. Not just this latest issue. It has always been the case. As soon as another option is available, we are all gone. I promise. You are so short sighted, RZ!

by Christopher Briggs November 6, 2009 05:32 GMT

While I'm certainly disappointed that we won't be able to see the end of year tours, I for one have enjoyed watching lots of rugby games and magazine programs on rugbyzone this year and I look forward to doing so next year. Keep up the good work!

by Christopher Briggs November 6, 2009 05:36 GMT

Hmmm. I just remembered the dreaded 404 error messages I got a few times. If that could be sorted out I'd be well pleased.

by Chris Adams November 6, 2009 05:41 GMT

Disappointing. Very disappointing to learn this 2 days out. However, don't blame RugbyZone - it is the arcane world of media rights and traditionally focused TV companies wanting to protect their traditional distribution channels. You can go to Setanta-i and pay $20 USD pay per view. Bottom line - Rugby (IRB, the major unions etc) need to get their house in order and build online distribution as the primary channel - outside the half dozen countries where Rugby is big. The Internet is a major opportunity to build reach and audience globally for rugby. This is not the way to do it....

by Colin Hardy November 6, 2009 06:02 GMT

No Fall Internationals, no Air NZ Cup Highlights, wonder what's next. Sentana is like 15.00/month which comes out to 180.00 bucks a year give or take. With the Fall Internationals costing 20+ a game and the fact that Sentanta shows Northern Hemisphere stuff as well as SANZAR why wouldn't I just pay the extra for Sentanta???

by Justin Painter November 6, 2009 06:09 GMT

Being only 3 months into my one-year subscriptions I have to say I'm quite disappointed with RugbyZone. It has been great watching all of the Currie Cup and Air NZ Cup matches lately, but I was really expecting coverage of the International matches at the end of this year (as were most of you). Unfortunately there isn't much we can do but voice our concern with the situation and take our money eslewhere. I think Chris Adams was on-the-spot with his comment. Rugby is a growing sport worldwide and people want to watch it--but they can't. It would be nice to see some action by the IRB to create a website for coverage of all rugby matches (International and Domestic). It is sad to see so many people with a passion for the sport being prohibited from watching an International match due to corporate agreements or sponsorship conflicts. I'm originally from North America and rugby is become more and more popular every year. The rugby coverage in North America is either non-existant (even on PayPerView satellite TV), or rediculously expensive to watch even a single match. Sooner or later someone will open their eyes and put the pieces together. And become a very rich person by doing so. RugbyZone-->Sin Bin

by Willem Steyn November 6, 2009 06:33 GMT

I must say I am quite shocked after reading some of the low class comments posted here!! I have never (till now) seen real rugby supporters/players use such insulting language before on a blog/website! You idiots that start insulting rugby-zone should just leave this site. I have been a member for almost 3 years and the November tours have always been a present!! Blame sky and BBC/France2, they own the broadcasting right to all the games and they are full of it. I am also gutted about not being able to see the games, but by insulting Rugby zone for something that is beyond their control just shows your lack of intelligence!!

by Drew November 6, 2009 06:42 GMT

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by Heinrich Claassen November 6, 2009 08:59 GMT

I live in China, I 'm a fanatical Springbok supporter and I've subscribed to Rugbyzone to watch the Springboks in action, also in Europe, I've encouraged and convinced many of my fellow teachers and Chinese friends in China to subscribe to Rugbyzone. I am dissapointed and shocked by your announcement, please look at your heading again:"Subscribe and watch all the action online!" Lately I could not watch the Bledisloe match, Heineken matches and now this because it outside your region and rights! What is inside??? I have been really cheated!! Shame on you..be honest in the future please or you will eventually loose all your subscribers..do you really care? Heinrich, Dandong China..Cheated Subscriber!

by Michael Fisher November 6, 2009 09:11 GMT

F. Dogs. Has anyone requested a refund?

by Maciej Lobejko November 6, 2009 09:55 GMT

I guess next year I'll just get SKY Sports on my TV and not worry about RZ. You guys just did yourselvs huge antyRugbyZone campaign. And by the look of it it starts somwhere in Japan and end in Hawaii. WEL DONE RUGBY ZONE!!! Hope you will regret your decission soon.

by Nigel Butterfield November 6, 2009 10:33 GMT

In India, there is no local coverage on any channel. Rugbyzone is the lifeline. Now nothing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by RugbyZone Management November 6, 2009 11:36 GMT

Please read the update regards the situation in the story

by Charles Elliott November 6, 2009 11:49 GMT

From Canada...absolutely piss poor! Renewal options are plentiful, but come on guys, at least inform the paying public in advance.

by michael rabbidge November 6, 2009 11:51 GMT

are the deleted comments those which refer to alternate websites?

by marc miller November 6, 2009 11:56 GMT

Well its pretty easy to see that nobody is impressed. Who on earth is doing your negotiations - live feeds I can understand - but no delayed coverage, replays or downloads. If you don't resolve this, then your customers will seek better options

by Ian Martin November 6, 2009 12:08 GMT

i have had media zone and watch every game available for years. in this time mediazone has never shown the november tours or advertised them i live in the carribean and am very gratefull for the service they provide give the guys a break maybe next year ? ian martin

by SuperBru November 6, 2009 12:35 GMT

Notice how RZ deletes all those peoples comments that refer to other websites.Bitches!!

by Charles Sheppeard November 6, 2009 12:39 GMT

shambles!

by Sean Pickel November 6, 2009 12:40 GMT

HaHaHa I have both RZ and setanta! I win!

by Heinrich Claassen November 6, 2009 15:51 GMT

Rugbbyzone HAD 3,185 fans on Facebook!

by Garrett Magee November 6, 2009 16:07 GMT

yeah if they are having a problem getting rights, then as soon as my subscription is up i am leaving this page and not coming back.

by kiwignome November 6, 2009 16:22 GMT

I just signed up for this service last week, specifically (and only) to watch these games. I had to pay for a one year since there's no monthly option, even though I'm only going to be in the US a few more months. I can't believe you're only posting a notice now, a couple of days before the matches begin! Maybe you didn't ever say you were going to show them, but it should have been made clear that you weren't (or it was unsure) to let viewers make an informed decision. A rugby channel that doesn't show the international tour??? Who would have even thought it possible??? I certainly didn't, and have been completely ripped off as a result.

by Rob Leach November 6, 2009 16:28 GMT

Yeah, that's pretty disappointing.

by willem kruger November 6, 2009 17:36 GMT

I am cancelling. Beginning of the year they up the fees with 33% and they provide less than last year.

by James Burgess November 6, 2009 18:02 GMT

This is bullshit, this is WHY I joined!

by MsJG November 6, 2009 18:12 GMT

Setanta Sports USA is not showing the NZ matches either. So you don't win. I know. I have subscriptions to both. Subscriptions that will soon be cancelled.

by Fanie Serfontein November 6, 2009 18:35 GMT

Shocker! What are we paying for?

by Jurian van Maanen November 6, 2009 18:51 GMT

Ehm, I don't get you people at all. Yes it is a shame that rugby zone doesn't show the November international BUT.. like they say in this article, they never stated that they would show them. Last year they showed the Celtic tests during the autumn internationals period and they already announced that way before they were shown. So you could have figured that they would not show them this year. Lets also not forget that you still get a lot of rugby for your money. I myself would pay 100 dollars a year just for super 14 alone. For example NFL charges 250 dollars for their season so all in all rugbyzone is a good deal. However, one thing is bothering me about this article. The Heineken cup coverage has been absolute crap this year. We get a very poor selection of live matches (and very little live matches) and almost no decent on demand matches as well. I know for a fact that the Heineken cup coverage was WAY better last year. And Rugbyzone never announced that THIS coverage would change. So if you want to complain about something, complaint about that.

by riaan steenkamp_86 November 6, 2009 19:57 GMT

Guy's RZ is a great site. Come on now you just did not read the fine print. Yes it is true that Rz aka Mediazone has shown the fall tours everything exept England years past, as England Rugby Union has a different deal with media rights. The truth is as said above that Setanta has been selling rights to its rugby broadband to RZ in the past. Setanta is in short broke , the EPL threatend to cancel its agreement with setanta for millions of pounds owed in back money. You see Setanta makes most of its revenue on Soccer and by keeping the rights of rugby they force you out there to use there wesite at $20 a pop to watch a game. Meaning more revenue in there pockets. I know a guy in toronto who is friends with a guy who owns a pub that shows a lot of soccer and rugby games and the pub owners has also put pressure on setanta in north america to keep the rights as they have fall victim to Rz ie: losing paying customers. These pub owners pay a great deal of money to have the rights to show these games and every bum in a seat at home watching RZ is a loss of income to these pub owners. It is not just the $20 but also the extra $$$$$ spent on booze and foood. I have been a mediazone now Rz customer since 2002 and are happy with the service. I know they have always minus england showed the fall tours but things change. I'm sorry for you who feel cheated but they did state what you get for what you pay. Thank you Rugby Zone but i feel you can be better and a leader in Rugby on the net if you get all your ducks in a row. Maybe the mighty supersport can help.

by SuperBru November 6, 2009 20:18 GMT

http://setanta-i.com/default.aspx?d520a122-dd07-4187-893c-69f4989afe4e These guys are showing the NZ-WALES game live for $19.99

by John McGrath November 6, 2009 21:10 GMT

I feel really ripped off, I paid for a whole season and don't get it, you suck rugbyzone

by John McGrath November 6, 2009 21:13 GMT

I want a refund, i feel i've been ripped off

by Kane Harnett November 6, 2009 21:22 GMT

Dear Rugbyzone, your excuse that you aptly informed customers that the autumn test would not be covered is at best rubbish............... It may be impossible for you to get the rights to the games and it may be that you have not in anyway indictated that you would carry them but do not advertise yourselves as the "one stop shop" for rugby because as I see it that would be Justin.tv. It is also where you will find these games in the same 300kbs format you offer. I have enjoyed coverage of all the AB´s games this year and as I do not have access to BBC or SKY where I live I will be tuning into the games away from your website. Thank you for your good work for the past 10 months but when it really counts... you dropped the ball and I suggest you try and find a solution and be up front about it..... people are talking and they will decide when it comes to renewing their subscriptions.

by felipe varela November 6, 2009 21:50 GMT

I payed 1 year subscription to watch this matches. I coldn´t watch Tokio Bledisloe cup last saturday even 18 hours delay according yor reference map (still cant watch it on demand). I think you should refund me.

by Antony Young November 7, 2009 00:30 GMT

The gripes shouldn't probably be with RugbyZone, they should be with Sentanta who hold the rights and are charging $20 to watch the game.

by ron simmonds November 7, 2009 01:25 GMT

These Nov games were bonus' over the last years - I don't believe they were ever listed as part of the package this year. Remember in the past we did not get the Pom or Frog games - I believe those unions are involved. Like all of you I was hoping. So the AB/Oz Tokyo game is our last big one for 2009 In Canada this weekend Setanta is not showing any tests - they did not show ABs/Oz in Tokyo live or delayed. We will cool our heels & reconvene in February. By the way in Canada Setanta are in cahoots with TSN. I'd like to thank RugbyZone for the buffer free year - I will now look for another site as my nephew in OZ knows them all. If your down that way check out "Collective Expresso" in Melbourne. See ya all in 2010

by Sammy Getty November 7, 2009 02:19 GMT

You lot don't know how good RugbyZone has been. I'm a Charter Member since it was the Rugby Channel on MediaZone (before that a Fox Sports World subscriber) and anything other then a SANZAR Match has always been a bonus. Aye, sure SuperSport needs some work in the Public Relations/Customer Service departments (man I miss Matt Brown & Patrick Guthrie), but the volume of rugby they offer is by far the most anywhere. Quit your whining and bitching, when I first joined The Rugby Channel I had to go out and buy a computer w/windows on it just to be able to watch Rugby (now thanks to SuperSport I can watch on linux). You all that are complaining, because you were to lazy to read, are just plane soft. Man up! If you have to watch rugby between now & the next Super 14, go and watch what's on offer in the Archives, their's plenty on offer there. Cheers Sammy Getty Second City Troop RFC

by ron simmonds November 7, 2009 03:05 GMT

Well said Sammy. Yes we have come a long way - I first retuned into rugby in 2003 after being away from International Rugby in '64 (not a misprint). Going down to a pub or revisiting my ole club to scream & knock back a few jars is long in the past - I can now watch live & chat or download at a later date. The new Beta system used by Rugby Zone has left me "buffer free". I should add that I also have Setanta but like a few years ago I see less & less rugby. So cheers for Rugby Zone & you other fucked up belly aching lot read before you buy next time. I'm NZ & I'm just as pissed as you lot. See ya in February

by Jacob Bellingan November 7, 2009 04:04 GMT

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by MainCo November 7, 2009 04:15 GMT

Thanks for nothing guys, a real dissapointment....not expected and definately not made aware prior to subscription. I will take my money elsewhere. Either do it properly or don't do it at all

by Murray Clarkin November 7, 2009 09:32 GMT

I have followed this thread with some interest after my earlier post, and think that Rugby Zone's response to the iritation shown by their customers is appalling. They may not have advertised these games, but the fact is that they have shown them in previous years. Therefore there is reasonable expectation on the customers part that they will be shown again. The term "reasonable expectation" is something that appears frequently in contract law, in most countries. It is "reasonable" for existing customers to expect a similar service, to that previously enjoyed, until there is formal notification of change. It is also "reasonable" for the service provider to advise of change in a timely manner that the service level cannot be maintained, for whatever reason, allowing customers to seek alternatives. Rugby Zone have failed miserably in this aspect. The explanation, "we couln't get the rights" also iritates. Its logical to expect that the owner of the rights would want to sell as many times as possible, to extract maximum income from those rights. So availability is more than likely not the issue here, price is. Rugby Zone has elected to not pay the asking price, and instead taken the gamble, that over time the disapointment of customers will abate, allowing for more subscription renewals, and greater profits in the future, regdless of content. Its Rugby Zones right to take that gamble. Its aslo the customers right to go elsewhere. And I will be. I think that Rugby Zones handlling of this issue has been shambolic. They dont deserve to be in the business, and probably wont be in the near future based on this experience.

by Debbie Tullo November 7, 2009 11:44 GMT

Having subscribed to both RugbyZone and Setanta, I have found Rugby Zone to be MUCH superior. The quality of the video is better and the way content is presented is infinitely better. The only reason I subscribed again to Setanta is that I wanted to see a bit of the northern hemisphere stuff. But I'm thinking now I'll probably go back to just RZ next year. The real problem is the people doing the rights. I am probably incredibly naive but I don't see why both shouldn't be allowed to show whatever they have a demand for. Living in a non rugby country (the US) I have to take what I can get.

by Mine Saunders November 7, 2009 12:54 GMT

Testing the comments.

by Mine Saunders November 7, 2009 12:54 GMT

RZ test

by gary boston November 7, 2009 12:55 GMT

yet another disappointment. they seem to be plentiful these days.

by Eugene ?? November 7, 2009 13:28 GMT

I'm sorry, you guys aren't doing it right if you can't even get rights on broadcasting even in China. One must ask who your agents are and whether they are capable of doing their job. I'm pretty sure that the Bledisloe cup is SANZAR rugby event and you couldn't even get that. What does this mean for next year's Tri Nations? Or when your broadcasting contract on that runs out, what then? While I love the Currie cup and the Super 14, the real games in rugby are the Internationals. This is not football, country comes before club in this game! Last year your guys had the Welsh and Scottish matches up. This could only mean that your boys pissed someone off somewhere this year and you can't get the rights on anything anymore. Either that or you guys are fighting a takeover by the bigger broadcasting networks. Whatever it is, your customers are suffering for it. Sell it off or get agents that can actually secure the contracts with the networks so that we can get our money's worth. Or at least have an open line of communication with your customers. I had to mail your support desk at least 5 times to get any kind of answer out of them and each time I had to dig a little deeper to get the info that I wanted out of them. Rugbyzone's lack of communication on this is appalling and the article above is a cop out. Anyone who has signed up in the last two months would have done so hoping to see the November Internationals. It is true that nowhere on your website does it say that you will show the games but in the same breath, nowhere does it say that you will not be showing it. As said before, last year you did have a few of the November games so there was an expectation set purely because you broadcast those games in the past and therefore your website does bear the responsibility of keeping your customers informed as to whether or not you will be broadcasting these matches.

by Eugene ?? November 7, 2009 13:44 GMT

Another 2 cents, all these people that comment about autumn Internationals being a bonus and that pubs need bums in their seats blah blah, you people are way too easily pleased. I live in a part of the world where there are no pubs or sports bars and nobody watches rugby except myself and very few others. There is not a single channel out of 136 local channels that screens rugby and of those 136 only 1 is a sports channel, so I ask again. How in the F@CK did rugbyzone not secure broadcasting rights in China when there are absolutely no competing sporting channels except for CCTV5 that headlines Pingpong, Badminton, Volleyball, Gymnastics and football and never ever rugby??!?!?!?!?!?!?!???

by christopher curtis November 7, 2009 15:19 GMT

THIS IS A JOKE GUYS, CAN'T WATCH ANY GAMES FROM DUBAI USELESS

by Garreth Elston November 7, 2009 16:15 GMT

Certainly not going to renew RZ once my sub is up. I'm getting Sentanta anyway, so the cash I'll save on not wasting money on RZ will go towards the pay per view games. Pathetic customer service. Stop blaming everyone else, if you wanted the rights you could have got them.

by ron simmonds November 7, 2009 20:35 GMT

Are some of you whackos reading these comments properly. There is sweet f?ck all on Setanta TV these days regarding rugby in fact its becoming like Fox Sportsworld did. Maybe 3 games of Super 1V per week & two games each of Currie & Air NZ Cups. For those still not listening Setanta did not show the Oz/ABs Tokio game in Nth America (live or otherwise). Setanta as reported has huge financial problems - in Canada its propped up by TSN. The Fall Tours were never ever advertised as part of the package - they were added in at the end of the season for no extra charge. For your US$100 each year you got Super 1V, Spring Tours, Tri-Nation, Air NZ & Currie Cups - A total of 280 games - 36 cents a game. Yes RZ has had its problems but each year its got better - no buffering this year & a great picture & you get to mouth off. The fall tours never allowed the English & French games to be shown from what I remember. The culprits here are those individual home unions - probably want $$$$. I absolutely agree that with more exposure the game of rugby will grow & maybe the Fat Cats at IRB should take a hard look at how they market the game. I personally have Rugby Zone & Setanta - thats $280 per year - RZ is a great bargain so quit slamming them otherwise move back to your motherland where the games you are missing still come with a price tag. RZ has some problems granted but it ain't a perfect world. Take a crap & get yer head out of your arse.

by ryan cannon November 8, 2009 03:23 GMT

OK, But tell me why your rugby archives only go back as far as 2007. Where is some of the old tours. eg. 70s& 60s.

by ron simmonds November 8, 2009 08:11 GMT

Were games in the 60s ever filmed ??? Tours in those days were structured completely different. Tours in the north lasted almost 3 months - players were amateurs - they had daytime jobs. In NZ not always the top players were available as some were farmers & could not afford to be away from their farms that long. Teams would play 2 games per week - tests against the 5 nations plus Munster, Cardiff, Swansee etc. It should be noted that players in those days only played 4 or so tests per year - The British Lions came to N.Z. /Aus once every few years - The home unions never toured to the South Pacific until the early 60s. Before any of you sign up with Setanta make sure you know what you are going to see in your area. They show a third of what rugbyzone make available - much of it is not live. Also you can only find out 2 days ahead what their schedule is. In Canada, Setanta is $15 per month most of their programming is soccer.- RWC is extra - I think $20 a game last time. Maybe if there were a few thousand more subscribers RugbyZone could afford more rights. Frankly I've been satisfied with what has been delivered so far - I got what I signed up for. The quality of feed this year greatly improved. Its come along way since the days when Matt Brown & Co hosted rugby on Fox Sports World- so lighten up ladies & gentlemen & lets "ruck" again in 2010

by Nathan Watson November 8, 2009 11:33 GMT

Just bloody typical. I am sick of this lack of service. I joined to get all the rugby, now I miss all the big games. I am out of here. No renewal next year, wasn't going to do this year except they took the money before they warned me it was going. Good night.

by frans laubscher November 8, 2009 15:33 GMT

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by JV November 8, 2009 20:09 GMT

I do agree that Rugbyzone could have handled this issue a lot better than they did. And for the premier rugby website (which they are) to fail to even acquire delayed viewing rights for these games sounds lackluster at best. But the fact remains, Rugbyzone is the only option we have in the US, and they do provide an abundance of games throughout the year. For the price of the subscription, it is definitely a good deal. While I am sorely disappointed to not getting the November tests, I will continue to subscribe and enjoy the rugby. But I do have a suggestion, and I hope someone at Rugbyzone technical support reads this. The quality of the Rugbyzone video this year has been pretty hopeless at times. So choppy that it is a real pain to watch, and always cropped with a black border around the edges - why? I was watching the NZ and Aus games on Setanta-i last night, and their presentation of the video was flawless - same resolution as what we get with Rugbyzone, but super smooth and in proper, FULL-SCREEN 16:9 aspect ratio. Come on Rugbyzone, you can do it too - I know you are using a different presentation technology but even so - please fix this for next year!

by barry wolifson November 8, 2009 22:36 GMT

These people advertise they have it, anyone know if it's for real ? WatchRugbyOnline.net/

by ron simmonds November 8, 2009 23:15 GMT

Well, well, well OZ/England right now on Setanta. ABs & Taffys at 3.45pm PST this afternoon - thats Sunday. Re: JVs comments - I believe I only had one rough night with RugbyZone.

by Sammy Getty November 9, 2009 00:52 GMT

@ron simmonds Well maybe on the left coast setanta showed England v. Wallaby's when scheduled but here on the Right Coast the scheduled 17:00 England v. Wallaby's was actually Wales v. New Zealand. Something I find typical regarding setanta, not only do they not show the matches live, but they oft times show them out of order (which inevitably the results of the earlier matches are reveled), but they also play what is not listed in the guide (most times thats actually girlie man soccer shown). Setanta has never been worth the money I've spent on them, but my desire to watch good rugby in the States prevails when they are the only ones offering it.

by Kobus De Jager November 9, 2009 03:16 GMT

All good things come to an end.......but luckily new ones take shape as the old ones fail.......hopefully

by Mario Estacio November 9, 2009 06:58 GMT

Pathetic!

by daryl November 9, 2009 07:22 GMT

Disappointing - Yes... Ripped off? - No...

by Matthew Dubsky November 9, 2009 11:16 GMT

I've been generally happy with Rugby Zone, mainly because it's given me my Rugby Fix when I need it. But I need to have a look at the tea-leaves and weight up my options. I live in Denmark and watching Rugby is a limited beast at the best of times, true.. I can go to a pub to watch it (if it's live on Sky) but... what I want is On Demand Rugby, a website I can pay good money to load a game when I want it so I can watch it when I want to. Why can't we as a collective pressure the IRB, The Unions and demand they put the games on their home site and if some company has 'rights' you can still get it from the IRB/Home union and a % of your fee goes to the IRB/Home union you prefer to grab it from, and the other cut to the broadcaster. Surely that's win-win for fans, home unions, the broadcasters.. I don't give a toss where I get my rugby from, the company I purchase it from isn't what I judge, I just want to see a game. RZ, your chance here is to do the right thing and get these games.. I don't give a stuff if it's delayed, I just want to see the games.

by peter brown November 9, 2009 20:57 GMT

I have been a "founder member" from the early days and i amgrateful for the abundance of rugby that this channel has produced. I sympathise with many of the disappointed viewers but I do get alternative viewing through the Satanta websiteon my computer. Direct TV also has the Setanta channel as one of their packages (the only Tv provider that doesas far as i am aware)and I saw the UK games at a friends house this weekend. I am switching to satellite Tv tomorrow as a result. I am keeping on with RZ until I can find out if the Southern hemisphere games are included.

by Seth Moss November 9, 2009 21:51 GMT

This is disappointing. I would not have purchased my subscription if I knew that you would change your programming from last year.

by Eva November 9, 2009 22:10 GMT

I'm disappointed that you dropped the Fall Internationals. I had to buy 2 games at $20 each from Setanta. I would have not bought a yearly membership had I known beforehand.

by Sammy Getty November 10, 2009 01:34 GMT

@peter brown - I too have DirecTV w/ satanta.(at times) and their coverage of Rugby sucks compared to RugbyZone. As I posted to ron simmonds, I find typical regarding setanta, not only do they not show the matches live, but they oft times show them out of order (which inevitably the results of the earlier matches are reveled), but they also play what is not listed in the guide (most times thats actually girlie man soccer shown). I also know from experience that they only show two Super 14 Matches a week, if you like Canterbury & Auckland with the odd Wellington match thrown in it's fine, otherwise most clubs don't get coverage. Their coverage of the Currie Cup and NPC is no better. And lets not bring up satanta's piss poor coverage of the last Rugby World Cup. Cheers Sammy Getty Second City Troop RFC

by Brian King November 10, 2009 03:11 GMT

I am sorry. Saying you didn't read the fine print doesn't cut it! The guys that posted that must be lawyers or work for RZ. I actually think that RZ is a pretty good deal. But to only find out that I cannot watch the games when I come to download them is very disappointing. F$@# they send me enough other emails to tell me what’s coming up. I'd appreciate the courtesy of telling me in advance not to expect to see the games. It’s a let down! Bugger!

by Rob Russell_78 November 10, 2009 03:59 GMT

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by Kenny Tait November 10, 2009 04:59 GMT

Guess that the world cup matches will be blocked as well. come on RZ get your shit together.

by peter brown November 10, 2009 17:21 GMT

Hi Sammy Apprecite your comments on Setanta but I lived for 40 years in the Caribbean before coming to US and for 35 of those years never saw one game.Setanta was shown in Barbados at a local pub just before I left so any rugby I now get is like Manna from heaven!

by JOEL BONNAUD November 10, 2009 18:16 GMT

what about the upcoming games this week-end? I don't even see Boks - France available on Setanta... Do they really care about rugby anymore?

by nils thode November 10, 2009 20:08 GMT

Hey Guys at Rugbyzone...no worries... may be next time ...I like your work so far!

by Robert E. Gearing II November 10, 2009 23:47 GMT

I'm generally happy with the Rugby Zone service. Can't some of these Internationals be purchased after the fact, maybe three or four days after the Test. What value can these matches have to their owners after the results are known? I can never understand why Rugby is so proprietary! I would expect this kind of thing out of the NFL or the NBA. The Internationals are such exciting matches that maybe you can cut back on some of the lesser domestic matches in the Currie Cup or the Air NZ Cup. I hope you find a solution. Cheers!

by 68 CHARGER November 11, 2009 06:23 GMT

clearly mediazone needs to address this if not now but next season for sure. Not good!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Toby Macrae November 11, 2009 07:27 GMT

Does anyone know who will be screening this weekend's games? Setanta-i?

by Chris Lo November 11, 2009 07:38 GMT

The fat cats on the IRB are not blameless too. Their supposed credo is to bring rugby to the non-powerhouses and foster the game worldwide, but big business who provide the big bucks pulls all the strings, and the IRB pay lipservice - witness everything else in the world! Logically speaking, the next world cup should have been going to Asia/Pacific rim (if they had any credibilty) and supporters and newcomers to the game should not be denied being able to view the Fall Tour matches as it is against the stated fact that the developed rugby countries want to foster the game in more communities, but as I said, everything takes a backseat to MONEY! Would it not make financial sense then to sell broadcast rights to other parties so the actual fans whom they are supposedly trying to reach are not denied, but then again, who cares about the man in the street (fan)? Why does the financially bloated IRB not have a say on the matter, and the regional rugby boards too? And why buy rights to broadcast if you don't want anybody to watch? Censorship?? Stupidity? Or is it maybe that the northern hemisphere broadcast companies don't want anybody else to witness those teams being whipped by the southern hemisphere upstarts? And why can't we watch it streamed on the Internet? Money makes the world go round, the world go round.... By Confused, Confounded and Perplexed!

by Steve van Deventer November 11, 2009 10:47 GMT

This really sucks! I was not informed, had to pay everytime to upgrade from kudud club then to a Platinum member and now this. This was not emailed or made known

by Addi November 11, 2009 12:11 GMT

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by Adam Clark November 11, 2009 17:44 GMT

North American's should consider venting some of this rage at Setanta. They are responsible for the denial of service by not selling on the content to RugbyZone. http://www.setanta.com/ca/Contact-Us/ As a subscriber to both services, I find it very disapointing that the competition between these companies has resulted in not being able to see the games live and missing some games entirely (NZ vs Italy). There aren't many bars with Setanta Premium open at 9am.

by Gayle Hill November 11, 2009 18:52 GMT

I am really peeeeed off, RZ give the distinct impression they will provide us with ALL the big games, not just some of them. I feel RZ have deceived us.

by Cillmore November 11, 2009 20:57 GMT

Setanta may be showing some of the matches, but they are charging a PPV fee for them; in ADDITION to the yearly subscription fee.

by nick larigakis November 11, 2009 23:00 GMT

Gents... Here are the facts...RZ had definitely intended to broadcast the Autumn Internationals and as recently as November 2nd they were still trying to negotiate for the rights. How do I know this? I know this because I phoned them on November 2nd and spoke to one of their reps who told me they were "expecting" to get the rights "any minute now". So for RZ to now attempt to defend itself by saying that they "never indicated" they would show the November tests is a slimy and utterly dishonest statement. What a bunch of assholes!

by michael rabbidge November 12, 2009 08:19 GMT

time to move on people, hopefully they'll get it right next time

by Christiaan Caenen November 12, 2009 12:15 GMT

Setanta US is one of the few companies where they have to share broadcasting rights. There are a lot of regions / countries out there where no Rugby right excist at all. Why isn't Rugbyzone able to get the rights for this? During a press release in January RZ announced that they'll be showing 275 live games this year. I'm pretty sure they won't reach this number this year and through that have percieved us. Stand-alone from the fact if they really announced the autumn tours. Furthermore what's up with the Heineken Cup? Last year they where showing all televized games and this year only two. Who's the person in charge of negotiating broadcasting rights within Mediazone? I'd reccomend to fire this guy as it seems he's completely inaduquate to fulfil this job. Rugbyzone could do so much better (Customer satisfaction / Turnover) if a suitable person would come in place of him. That would be a few bucks well spent! Continue with the current employee? That would be the end of Rugbyzone!

by Les de Villiers November 12, 2009 13:37 GMT

Be glad that you have en ethical legitimate service offered by Rugbyzone. I believe they tried their best to get the Fall Tour but were shut out by other interests. Visit a blog where numerous fans compained about being scammed into believing that they can get all the games through another "service" to see what is out there. (http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/rugby-onlinetv-c120955.html) Thanks Rugbyzone for having brought us a great season. I am looking forward to more of the same. By the way, having seen clips of the pathetic South African performance against Leicester as well as the dull Australia/England match on All Our Rugby (courtesy Rugbyzone) I don't think we have missed much so far.

by Gerhard van Wyk November 12, 2009 15:29 GMT

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by Mark McCann November 12, 2009 16:25 GMT

So has anyone found a legitamite site showing the SA-France game? I cannot see any reference to it on Setanta, Setanta Premium or Setanta-i.

by cameron tatupea November 12, 2009 17:09 GMT

all French games in America and Canada will be shown on TV5MONDE channel it is available through dish network and some cable companies all commentary will be in French and live, this channel is also available worldwide.

by jdesousa November 12, 2009 17:52 GMT

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by cw barnett November 12, 2009 21:41 GMT

I've read with interest the irate comments on your web-site by rugby fans disappointed that RugbyZone is not carrying the autumn internationals from Europe this year. I am disappointed too but think some of the comments are un-fair. In the past you showed 'Celtic' tests, but not England or France games. Well, it is what it is so let’s move on! The question for me is 'What about the future?' The next major international tournament is the 'Six Nations'. RugbyZone has not carried it in the past but it would be great if you did. Any chance? If not, perhaps you could share with you fans and subscribers 'why not?' It would help if you were not so opaque in you explanations. You've told us the fact that you could not obtain rights to broadcast certain games; but you do not explain why. Your fans may want to know who or what is standing in the way. Is it possible to enroll the support of your customers to help you acquire such rights? For what you do broadcast via BB your service is tops. If the rugby world wants to expand its audience services such as RugbyZone is one of the best ways to do so. Not all of us can watch international matches live or on TV so you are an invaluable resource. I have no knowledge about your business model but it seems to me that it would behoove you to be more proactive in expanding you produce base. Your current customers will be delighted and surely you'll acquire more of them. I sincerely wish your company continued success in the future. CW Barnett Kensington, CT

by Addi November 12, 2009 21:56 GMT

Agree with you CW, it was clear to me that there wouldn't rugby on RZ when I subscribed. I didn't at that stage know about these tests but now time has moved on and I strongly suggest RZ to relook its strategy. Hey, there's no TV channels here in Germany that bring any rugby at all! So, I'm dependent on streaming via the internet and this is a smart business model such as RZ has taken and brought some good coverage of the Super 14, Curry cup, Air NZ, 3Ns and BBI Lions. This service of course wets the appetite for more, so here's and excellent opportunity for RZ to step in. I wonder how their business model anyway works, but at the end I don't care as long as I get value worth services for my subs. C'mon RZ step up!

by Uninvisible November 12, 2009 23:41 GMT

Man, there sure are a lot of angry comments here..... I have a RugbyZone account and also subscribe to Setanta ( although they only have spotty Rugby coverage) As much as the lack of November tests sucks i still want to support RugbyZone's service in the hopes that it will continue to improve its quality and gain more broadcast rights in the future. I also have to agree with an earlier comment about getting the games after the fact. Being able to watch matches a few days later is better than not at all....

by Vili November 13, 2009 01:00 GMT

BILL TEE, THANKS RUGBY ZONE, I'VE WATCHED AND ENJOYED A LOT OF GAMES YOUVE PROVIDED. THANKS AGAIN..

by JACO CLAASSENS November 13, 2009 03:41 GMT

Guys - my understanding is that mediazone belong to Fox Group - so they are big dog against small irish company called setanta..............why can we not watch the fall games - it is a damn disgrace!!!!

by Hendrik Schoeman November 13, 2009 03:41 GMT

I am sooo disappointed - will not renew my subscription nexr year

by Gerhard van Wyk November 13, 2009 07:46 GMT

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by ron simmonds November 13, 2009 13:40 GMT

On Setanta @ 11.30am PST today (Friday) Samoa & Wales. Could be a good game NZ & Bahrain today (tomorrow) at soccer on FSW

by Gawie November 13, 2009 14:59 GMT

Now, where on gods green earth will the Springboks' match against France be televised? If anywhere? Which channel if you're in The Netherlands? Anybody know?

by aaron olsen November 13, 2009 15:16 GMT

Here in Canada we have to pay an extra $15 a month for Setanta and not even get the games live or at all (NZ vs Italy). Setanta is a joke. Once again Canadians get screwed

by Gerhard van Wyk November 13, 2009 15:26 GMT

Gawie, France 2 is streaming the game live on their website. You need to connect via a French proxy, which isn't difficult (Google is your friend) and which I will be doing from Germany. I explained how in a previous post but it was deleted.

by John Banks November 13, 2009 15:30 GMT

I just purchased channel 267 TV5 Monde (French) with Optimum which is televising the game in the US. Will have to listen to the french commentators but I wont understand anyhow but at least Ill watch the game.

by jdesousa November 13, 2009 17:27 GMT

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by JOEL BONNAUD November 13, 2009 19:07 GMT

don't worry John, you won't miss anything, trust me.

by Hermanus Wessels November 13, 2009 19:16 GMT

Gawie; TV 5, I believe. If you've got Filmnet, channel 262, I think.

by Gawie November 13, 2009 19:40 GMT

No guys, no rugby on TV 5 Europe, I'm afraid. That proxy thing sounds way to complicated. So, its back to the stone age, with written commentary on Planet Rugby. Oh well, as long as the Boks do the business!

by Arthur Bezuidenhout November 13, 2009 20:38 GMT

Dis verdomp belaglik dat ons betaal en niks kan kyk nie!

by TheoSons Ferreira November 14, 2009 02:08 GMT

I'm getting slinbox and putting it in m dad's house in Port Elizabeth. SuperSport here I come.

by Rory November 14, 2009 03:46 GMT

why are they not loading Superrugby or Boots & All. Creeps

by Rory November 14, 2009 03:48 GMT

Rats to RugbyZone

by Rory November 14, 2009 03:54 GMT

So what no live rugby for the rest of the year ? Hmmm I had Setanta and they suck. This site is better. Are thought they are owned by same company that owns kuduclub. Kuduclub however has the new rugby episodes loaded and this site does not. This is just plain irritating. It happens often. That is just bad customer service.

by Mark Moolman November 14, 2009 18:26 GMT

To Gerhard van Wyk - thanks for the information on how to watch the game. It worked - cheers

by John Ellis_34 November 21, 2009 08:47 GMT

Bunch of fookin con artists. Knowing very well that people either would not sign up or would exit in droves they obviously decided not to advertise this fact! I signed up last year, and the November internationals were covered. RZ you scammers automatically renewed my membership yet prior to doing so never made any announcement to the changes. You call this customer service ....no fooking way! You are crap, you know you are crap and I want my $99 USD refunded. Bastards!!!

by ron simmonds November 21, 2009 23:01 GMT

John Ellis. You signed up last year & got the package - the Fall Tours were added for free once RZ had negotiated the rights - they were never ever listed as part of the original package - I've been a subscriber for the past 4 to 5 years. Each year I've renewed for Super 14, Tri-Nations, Currie Cup & Air NZCup. Its possible that even the Spring Tours were thrown in as well. John, I think you and many others have mis interpreted what you were getting. If you look at the News Section there is a later posting from RZ saying that the format will be changed & I surmise that it could be for the worse - check out more ranting & raving. Sunday on Setanta at 2pm PST ABs/England will shown followed by Fiji/Ireland. At 6pm Wales/Argentine NOW THIS IS ON SETANTA/CANADA - Not sure whats on US Setanta.

by ron simmonds November 28, 2009 03:59 GMT

Well it seems that everyone is tired of this. Just in case you are out of the loop All Blacks V France on TV5 Saturday November 28 at noon PST - Its LIVE. TV5 is available for digital channel subscribers in Canada - no xtra fee. Enjoy

by D Harwood November 28, 2009 14:16 GMT

Gitting slighted is the norm in USA when it comes to rugby, so the dissapointed in not getting to see the fall internationals seemed as usual. I sure would love to see the Fance v NZ match today. Hell just to see the highlights of the game a week from now would be great! What's the problem? If it's money -- then charge an additional fee.

by Sammy Getty March 19, 2010 02:45 GMT

I know that this is a very old news story (as well as a contentious one) but I thought I would post a link to the RugbyZone Forums, http://www.rugbyzone.com/forum/Default.aspx , in hopes of directing some traffic there. Imo, the forum would be a better venue for the types of discussions that took place here. Cheers Sammy Getty Second City Troop RFC, Bryn Mawr Pa USA

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