Blame the system

It beats me to understand how a Springbok team can lose to an English club side – not once but twice!

Given South Africa’s riches – money, fanatical support and unbelievable player depth – that should just not happen and what it shows are the flaws in the system.

The Springboks were up against 10 of their compatriots at Saracens – a club with backing from Johann Rupert, Morné du Plessis and Francois Pienaar on their board and Brendan Venter as their head coach!

There are a good number of South African boys at other clubs in the UK, France and Italy so what it shows you is that South Africa could field a third side, perhaps even a fourth, who would be competitive at international level but that the resources are being wasted.

Many of the guys playing overseas are there because of the colour situation and I wouldn’t be surprised if this tour hasn’t caused some others to weigh up their futures and decide that if the selection policy is weighted against them they might as well head north.

If any good can come out of this tour by the Springboks it must be the realisation that it’s no good picking players who are just not up to it. We know why its done, but it does no-one any good; not the team and certainly not the individual.

I’ve said it before (much to the annoyance, I noticed, of some bloggers) but the World Cup is still two years away and I don’t think the Springbok coaches have been very clever about how they’ve gone about this tour.

They needed to be saying: if Victor Matfield, or Bakkies Botha, or Fourie du Preez or John Smit breaks down who’ll step up? And when you see them losing to club sides you’ve got to say they’ve got it wrong.

I suppose they had it coming given Pieter de Villiers’ arrogance, or paranoia, with his treatment of Brendan Venter. It was disgusting really. Notwithstanding the fact that Venter was, in effect, their host it is really quite pathetic to think that he was spying or going to learn something earth shattering.

If there was something the Boks had in mind they could have quietly walked through it at their hotel, or even in the warm-up, but in the end it does not alter the fact that it’s what you do on the field rather than off it that counts.

That said I don’t think I’ll ever really understand what goes on in South Africa. Take this stuff with The Beast (Tendai Mtawarira). I looked it up. He made his debut in June 2008 and had played 19 Tests before someone in Government decided he was ineligible to play for South Africa! Explain that to me?

Looking ahead to the Test against Italy I believe the Boks will stand up. The old saying that there’s nothing as dangerous as a wounded Springbok remains true and I believe the No1 side will dig deep to restore their pride.

Enough about the Boks. It’s a shame the Wallabies failed to beat Ireland and I’m sure the guys will be hurting because they came within 30 seconds of keeping the dream alive.

Ireland were there for the taking as they were playing their first game of the year and you also have to question why we were playing deep in our own half with 30 seconds to go but you only get one chance and now I suppose we’ll have to wait another 25 years to repeat the Grand Slam!


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by Durban Poison November 18, 2009 09:04 GMT
More drivel from Campo! I was tempted not to comment... just ignore this palooka and his anti-South African sentiments, but he is getting paid to blog on a platform that I pay for. I understand that inflammatory statements bring more hits, but it cheapens Mediazone, if they feel that an international audience would be interested in the opinion of a former player, who is all but ignored in his native country.
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by FRANCOIS BOTES November 18, 2009 10:06 GMT
It is unfortunate that South African rugby is so politicized, but I think the blame can fall squarely on the shoulders of Pieter de Villiers, who ironically, is the worst South African Rugby coach, with the best pick of players ever. Poor leadership at its best.
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by FRANCOIS BOTES November 18, 2009 10:06 GMT
It is unfortunate that South African rugby is so politicized, but I think the blame can fall squarely on the shoulders of Pieter de Villiers, who ironically, is the worst South African Rugby coach, with the best pick of players ever. Poor leadership at its best.
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by pieter verschaeve November 18, 2009 11:14 GMT
its quiet funny the blogs of Campo, great player that he was he doesn't have the same skill set in writing as a hobby let alone writing for a pay per view site. The only reason that i read his collums is that it either makes me laugh or cry, and is very entertaining but nothing he ever says i take seriously. With this article however he does make a good point that sport should not be based on the color of your skin. I know that the people of South Africa haven't had it easy the past couple of decades but letting politics interfere with the great game of rugby is just not right, even if there is still a great deal of racism and inequality spread in the wonderful and very beautiful country of SA they should not be obliged to pick players on the bases of the color of their skins because however you put it picking more black players than whites is exactly the same as picking more whites than blacks. I say let the rugby speak and not the way the payers look or it will start to really hurt South African rugby, maybe not by next world cup but in 2015 they might not even get in the quarter finals if this continuous.
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by Addi November 18, 2009 11:20 GMT
Well, looking at Saracens game I must agree with Campo (I think that's the first time I did). The boks played the better 2nd "bok" team. SA can't seem to keep talent so guys do what I did in business and go overseas, where talent is still looked for and utilised. Great win to Saracens even though it hurt at first but then looking at the players on the field and finding that almost all them were SA players - great win SA-Saracens!
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by JOEL BONNAUD November 18, 2009 13:49 GMT
Durban Poison, explain to me how Campo here is anti-South Africa!!! Are you blind or just because he is an Aussie you want to have a free shot? He's saying the opposite: SA has great talents and could easily form 3 to 4 international teams without a problem, but obviously the system they have to live with is not ok. And how surpirsing, we have tons of talented SAs leaving to the North. Try to read and understand before criticizing.
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by Heinrich Claassen November 18, 2009 13:49 GMT
As a Springbok fan, I agree with you 100% Campo.Some pathetic decision making by the Springbok Management led to total rugby embarassment. The late Doc Craven claimed the Springboks show against France at Springs in 1964 when they lost 6-8 was the worst in this country's history, but the show in Toulouse must give it a real close go, started by the absurd Rasta anthem. When will SA rugby players stand up for their rights, its 15 years after apartheid, so time for window dressing is surely gone. Why send a tighthead prop to replace a loosehead and playing a loosehead on the tighthead side? Where are the days when your heart, mind and soul were nearly exploding when putting on the Springbok jersey. The All Blacks are unfortunately heading the same way!
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by Durban Poison November 18, 2009 14:15 GMT
Gladly Joel, but Campo's anti-South African sentiments are not only based on this article alone. Ask him to write a blog about why he was booted out of the Sharks. No actually, don't - he'll probably just spew more nonsense! Campo opens with his failure to understand how a 'Springbok' team could lose to 2 English club sides - we'll forget that these 'Springboks' played against the Premiership champions in Leicester and current table-toppers in Saracens yesterday that boast fine players that train daily within systems and coaching staff they are familiar over the last few months/years. The South African 'dirt-trackers' have trained together for the last 3 weeks and was made up individuals that performed well in the Currie Cup and/or for PdV in the past. Everyone that has played the fine game of rugby should know that the game is a team sport. A team assembled of individuals (largely foreign to one another) surely cannot expect an easy going against a professional club team. It's common knowledge that Campo was not a 'team-player' - his inflated ego is based on individual plaudits, and he has instilled discord, wherever he has applied his rugby 'knowledge'.
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by Durban Poison November 18, 2009 14:27 GMT
Mentioning the 'colour situation' in South African rugby makes Campo sound more like the pale version of Julius Malema! Totally unnecessary as it's common knowledge that the main attraction of the vast majority of players (not only from South Africa) moving north is the lure of the pound and euro. Fact is we have a massive pool of rugby players being churned out by South African schools every year - these players know that not all of them are gonna win a Bok cap, regardless of the (colour of the) coach. The trend in world rugby is to build the team around a core number of players and let them amass caps while hopefully winning games and trophies at the same time. That's where we're at in Springbok rugby and the coaching staff has made no secret that they're 'having a look' at players with 2011 and beyond in mind - playing top quality opposition without giving Bok caps are the games having test status could not be more ideal. Hope that answers your question Joel?
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by Selwyn Price November 18, 2009 14:46 GMT
Durban Poison, you really don't get it. Compare other Southern Hemisphere sides currently touring in Europe. For example, the All Blacks (despite their name, not chosen for the colour of their skin) put their 'dirt-trackers' up against a national - not club - side and managed a win, something your boys haven't done for a while. On the other hand, the Boks are going to play the same side this weekend hoping for their first (not third) win with their number one side. Isn't it a wonderful feeling supporting the "World Champions".
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by Durban Poison November 18, 2009 15:05 GMT
Selwyn, I only saw the 'World Champions' play once this tour so far - against France. Poor game in general, except for the physicality one expects from France and the Springboks. The Boks were flat and kicking out of hand was atrocious. Not much between the sides, but France came out deserved winners as they looked hungrier and controlled the forward exchanges. Look, I don't like losing as much as the next Saffa, but some reason and balance is surely not too much to expect when reviewing the 'performance' of the dirt-trackers.
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by Selwyn Price November 18, 2009 15:14 GMT
Fair call DP, but all of the SANZAR team managements have the same agenda, but each are handling it differently. The NZ public haven't given Graham Henry an easy ride over the last couple of years, and he knows he's got to deliver on this tour after a poor Tri-Nations performance. Perhaps PdV doesn't feel the same pressure?
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by JOEL BONNAUD November 18, 2009 15:31 GMT
Durban Poison, the French team had exactly 5 days to get ready against the Boks, and the scrum was made of players from 5 different clubs, 3 clubs in the front row. So 3 weeks preparation is not an excuse. We don't even have 3 weeks to prepare the VI NAtions Tournament each year!!! The problem is that - as you said it - you have the "World Champions" and the rest, not an entire homogenous squad of 40 players. The Chapions get to play the National Teams, and the rest the local teams. Do you really believe they'll be up to the task in 2011 if they competed against the Sarries and Leicester??? Pdv is overusing the same "core" players over and over again, but look what happens when Botha or Matfield takes a hit. Even the A Team benchers are not up to the task...
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by kevin November 18, 2009 15:48 GMT
Now now. Its ok to stumble and this si the right time of the season to do so. SA has some work to do. France has upset the worlds best many a time. Rugby world cup 1995 against the All Blacks. Arguably the best team to to take a field in many a decade and were humbled by the mighty French. The Boks are suffering from a bit too much rugby and with any top team they get over analyzed. Its good for the game to see other teams winning. As for the midweek games, lets not forget that this is where teams try things. AMny a Lions Team or touring national side has lost a few midweek games. Rugby is in good shape and growing, let's love the teams and their efforts and celbrate Frances win rather than the BOKS loss. The future of Rugby looks great . Kia Kaha
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by JOEL BONNAUD November 18, 2009 17:10 GMT
what's funny is that when Tony Johnson and Mick Cleary are saying what Campo has been saying for months: game is boring and way too much kicking, there's no angry whinny trash comments on their blog...
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by Flying Wing November 18, 2009 17:41 GMT
Whether we agree with Campo or not, it is great to have his opinion here on Rugbyzone. His voice is one of the great things of our game right now and should be respected. That being said, I almost never agree with his opinions, but think that this article is a fair reflection of people's sentiments about SA rugby at the moment!
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by SuperBru November 18, 2009 20:38 GMT
Nail on the head Campo.100% correct.The ANC will eventually distroy a great rugby nation.PDV was never chosen for the good of rugby.He is not respected in the rugby world as a coach,but isnt it funny that the springboks as a rugby team are.He was handed all this tallent,and the quota pressure is mounting. Anyway, cant blaim those players who want to leave.Saracens didnt just win,they proved a point.
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by Jason Riekstins November 19, 2009 00:47 GMT
As a Saffa I think we're a bit harsh on Campo. He calls it like he sees it and although I don't often agree with him, I respect the fact that he is not trying to please everyone and says what he really thinks. He raises some valid points in his most recent article, especially about the treatment Beast and the way SA waste or don't know how to manage their considerable player depth and ofcourse the never ending bumbling political fools who make a joke of SA rugby and South Africa
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by jdesousa November 19, 2009 04:18 GMT
Campo, Credit to you for speaking out about some of the real underling issues facing S.A Politics and SA Rugby, This shows on the rugby field. No i am not bashing THE BOKKE PERFORMANCE THIS YEAR, IT WAS GREAT. The big question that Campo is trying to evoke from SA is....What Now!, Are we on the rugby succes track for the next generation. ......!
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by Travis Mcgarry November 19, 2009 05:14 GMT
well not often, or ever I think I said this, but couldn't agree more Campo, sad to see politics bringing down such a passionate rugby nation.....oh well its Africa, just another obstacle for the boys to over come...come Bokke pull it together
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by Pieter Swanepoel November 19, 2009 05:49 GMT
since Pieter Hendricks left Campo for dead in the opening 1995 game this is his most interesting script - well done for saying like it is - nothing can ever be done about this and many thought the boks would never win a cup again after the Mallet era - but give them credit, when last did the boks win a Lions tour and then beat the All Blacks 3 times in a row - this supporter is happy - forget the end of year tour - we'll take the tri nations any day!
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by william green November 20, 2009 09:32 GMT
Blah, Blah, SA politics is just that - SA politics. Campo, why dont you mind your own business and write about the racist violence against Indian students in your own country. You will never understand SA because your'e not a South African. Maybe you should have been a black man during the years of apartheid in SA. Perhaps then you might just understand why SA has an affirmative action policy. Until then Mr. Campese, shut your mouth and only open it when you know what you are talking about. There!
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by william green November 20, 2009 09:32 GMT
Blah, Blah, SA politics is just that - SA politics. Campo, why dont you mind your own business and write about the racist violence against Indian students in your own country. You will never understand SA because your'e not a South African. Maybe you should have been a black man during the years of apartheid in SA. Perhaps then you might just understand why SA has an affirmative action policy. Until then Mr. Campese, shut your mouth and only open it when you know what you are talking about. There!
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by Brian Jardine November 20, 2009 20:58 GMT
I can't believe I'm saying this, but, well put, Campo. That was actually a good article about facts, logic, and common sense. Again, I'm amazed, but....good article. Now, stop confusing us and get back to your controversial nonsense we all love so much. Where's the goose-step?
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by James Swindells November 21, 2009 16:26 GMT
As someone else said, nail on the head Campo. As many other Safa supporters I am feeling very frustrated at the waste of good talent, and poor choices. Unfortunatels politics is forcing many talented players away from SA to earn a crust ot two. As for the Beast situation.... absolutely ridiculous, the man resides in SA has played top provincial rugby, gets picked for the green and gold, and then another idiotic politic meddler steps in. Reall enjoyed a comment about how SA B side beat the A side in the Sarries Vs Boks. Keep up the controversial reporting Campo.... I dont always agree with your point of view, but always enjoy the read. As for the idiotic personal attacks by some of the other readers.... Get a Life!!
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by conor flynn November 23, 2009 05:47 GMT
i'm not sure if mr Campese is focusing on the south africans at the moment rather than his own team australia, because he is writing mainly for a southern hemisphere audience, or if it is because he is baffled and confused by the attitudes towards playing the game by the competing nations in the recent ireland australia game.
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by conor flynn November 23, 2009 05:48 GMT
having watched the game i concede that australia were far better at the breakdown and looked a more complete and balanced team than the irish, and in the end probably deserved a victory. what shocked me was the attempt of the irish to play "heads up rugby", while the aussies played a very conservative kicking game. turning down a certain 3 pointer to try to catch the aussies off guard, and running a penalty from your own 10 metre line, are things that cause me to grasp at the few remaining hairs on my head, but the least i expected from this complete disregard of sensible northern hemisphere rugby was a few lines of praise from the southern hemisphere experts, who have been crying for the past year about the flair and entertainment leaving rugby. the following week in the fiji game, played in some of the most atrocious conditions i have ever seen (although the game itself was not the greatest spectacle and i would certainly not advise watching it again), the irish ran everything that came their way from wherever they were on the pitch.
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by conor flynn November 23, 2009 05:48 GMT
the point i would like to make is that this running game is completely contrary to irelands traditional game plan and also to the skill set of our players. coming mainly from a GAA (irish football) background, most of the players would be far better at ease with the "dull", kick and chase game that all your journalists are railing against. Mr Campese, please open your mind a little and watch the ireland game against south africa next week and tell me which team is looking to play the game in the spirit which you value so dearly. i can understand that your silence on the issue is probably because would be embarrassed to talk about an irish team and their style of play as something for the southern hemisphere teams to aspire to, considering it is usually the case that the northern hemisphere teams are dreaming of having an ounce of the imagination of their southern hemisphere colleagues. although most irish people like me value winning the game over the style in which we play, our team seems to be attempting something which has never before been associated with irish rugby and may never again be seen in this part of the world, playing with attacking ambition and style.
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by Lionel Lambert November 23, 2009 13:29 GMT
I cannot believe that Campese can cause Saffas to argue about race and politics in OUR rugby. Last time I checked, Australian Aborigines were still living in reservations.
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